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	<title>Comments on: Further information on Christian mosaic find (and possible church) in Megiddo prison (Megiddo mosaics 4)</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Harland</title>
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		<description>Bouke Slofstra said...

    Thanks for this information, Philip.
    May I ask you a question?
    In Ferguson (Encyclopaedia of Early Christianity) I read that &quot;table&quot; (trapeza) was the normal Greek/Eastern word for the place where the communion was held, whereas the Western/Latin people spoke of an &quot;altar&quot; (ara?). If that would be true (and: as no real table has been uncovered yet in Megiddo) I could ask: what &#039;s the point in all this?

    I&#039;m not an expert in early Christianity (but I studied Latin &amp; Greek).
    So I&#039;m very curious: how should I interpret this &quot;table&quot; thing?

    Best regards,
    Bouke Slofstra

    3:36 AM
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Phil Harland said...

    Thanks, Bouke: You may well be right that they, the archeologists (or at least the media reports), are making a lot out of what could be somewhat insignificant with regard to terminology (the designation of the dedicated object as a &quot;trapeza&quot;, table). &quot;Trapeza&quot; was a common term for refering to a table, including a table connected with the celebration of the Lord&#039;s supper. Paul uses &quot;trapeza&quot; when he talks about the &quot;table of the Lord&quot; and the opposing table of demons in 1 Corinthians 8 and 10. Gradually the development of the idea of the Lord&#039;s supper as a sacrifice made &quot;altar&quot; a possibility as a designation. There is an online article that, although from a specifically Roman Catholic perspective, seems quite reliable at the following address (they also discuss how there was an avoidance of &quot;pagan&quot; terms for altars, such as bomos in Greek, in reference to the Christian table for eucharist):

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01362a.htm

    Hope this helps.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bouke Slofstra said&#8230;</p>
<p>    Thanks for this information, Philip.<br />
    May I ask you a question?<br />
    In Ferguson (Encyclopaedia of Early Christianity) I read that &#8220;table&#8221; (trapeza) was the normal Greek/Eastern word for the place where the communion was held, whereas the Western/Latin people spoke of an &#8220;altar&#8221; (ara?). If that would be true (and: as no real table has been uncovered yet in Megiddo) I could ask: what &#8216;s the point in all this?</p>
<p>    I&#8217;m not an expert in early Christianity (but I studied Latin &amp; Greek).<br />
    So I&#8217;m very curious: how should I interpret this &#8220;table&#8221; thing?</p>
<p>    Best regards,<br />
    Bouke Slofstra</p>
<p>    3:36 AM<br />
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Phil Harland<br />
Phil Harland said&#8230;</p>
<p>    Thanks, Bouke: You may well be right that they, the archeologists (or at least the media reports), are making a lot out of what could be somewhat insignificant with regard to terminology (the designation of the dedicated object as a &#8220;trapeza&#8221;, table). &#8220;Trapeza&#8221; was a common term for refering to a table, including a table connected with the celebration of the Lord&#8217;s supper. Paul uses &#8220;trapeza&#8221; when he talks about the &#8220;table of the Lord&#8221; and the opposing table of demons in 1 Corinthians 8 and 10. Gradually the development of the idea of the Lord&#8217;s supper as a sacrifice made &#8220;altar&#8221; a possibility as a designation. There is an online article that, although from a specifically Roman Catholic perspective, seems quite reliable at the following address (they also discuss how there was an avoidance of &#8220;pagan&#8221; terms for altars, such as bomos in Greek, in reference to the Christian table for eucharist):</p>
<p>    <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01362a.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01362a.htm</a></p>
<p>    Hope this helps.</p>
<p>    1:12 PM</p>
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